1500 Carb freezing

[zootmoney]

Anyone experienced this problem?
I am pretty sure I am experiencing carb freezing with my 1998 1500.
Running fine then slowing for junctions etc, cuts out. Sometimes starts immediately or sometimes needs to sit for a while. Have used Solkolene aditive and it seemed to help. Happens aroung 0 degrees or lower and usually foggy or at least damp in the air. Can't understand how it happens when you consider how enclosed everything is. I understand the concept of carb icing but even so, find it difficlut to believe it is happening.

Frustrated and confused.

Zoot
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[Goldwingdaz]

another possibility although rare is the air filter may be nearing knackered, damp and cold can make the airflow much less and so stops the normal running.
just give it a look in case, i would.
i have had this problem and symptoms in the car before and found the filter was filthy and oily.
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[dogbrain]

ditto that, my 1500 did similar. found the dirty air filter was freezing up and not enough air got through. I put a few holes in it with a screwdriver ( roadside repair in france) and got home with no probs. fitted a washable filter in its place and got more mpg too
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[london_lhr]

Zootmoney,

the best thing I ever did was to fit K&N airfilters to the bike and trike.
Better fuel consumption, slightly better performance and only slight increase in induction noise.
Although K&N only recommend cleaning the filter every 50000 miles, I clean and service mine once a year when I do oil change etc.
Easy enough to do on the 1500

Barry.
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[zootmoney]

Thanks for all the input guys.
I'll have a look at that and see what it looks like.
Have been using Silkolene fst and that helps also.

Will keep you all posted,

Zoot
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[glennuk]

yep' mine use to freeze would run like a bag of spanners till it got warmed up but there a cold beast at the best of times.temp 0 and below is the worst .also check the copper/metal strip that controls the flap on the air box intake as some time they hold the flap open and makes it worse.
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[zootmoney]

Thats interesting to read. I frequently ride around or below zero at this time of the year and have been recovered 4 times in the last 3 months! The AA now have my name on speed dial and usually check with me when `i am out and about. The Silkolene worked perfectly yesterday. Definitely checking the air filter and the metal strip you mention Glenn. Its just frustrating it happens unexpectedly. Yesterday, ran fine from cold with a 2 mile trip to get petrol. Filled up, within one mile, quite and would not run for 30 mins. Then ran for a 20 minute motorway run and quit turning into a B road. 5 mins later, ran fine.

Zoot
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[keithcross]

This problem has been posted here before and many differnt things have been tried, many with success, many not so.
It is down to carb icing and what normally happens is the bike runs really badley, or stals and wont re start for a while (until teh ice has melted).
I dont have a majic cure for this and my 1990 1500 suffers with it to.
And BTW I have a K&N air filter and stilll suffere from this problem once the temps get realy cold.

Dougal

[Buccephalus]

My 15 did this too. The hot air sucker pipe that runs off the left exhaust was so rusty it nearly fell off, and was not taking in any pre-warmed air. I never did fix it though. I just noticed this problem the winter after I took the manifold off. Don't forget petrol drops the intake air temp about 10 degrees anyway so ice forming is not a surprise really. Moist air just freezes in the carbs, you stop, and the engine heat melts it.

B
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[keithcross]

The 1500 carbs do have heaters on them. Unfortuantly the heat is suppied from teh cooling system, not a lot of use when its cold and the cooling system isnt getting all that warm
Item 14 on this page
http://www.westernhillshondayamaha.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=150205&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3494
Ask Graham B, its what the 2 small water hoses are connected to that are a right bugger to fit when putting 1500 carbs back on.

Dougal

[andy appleby]

Here's another solution
On a bitterly cold winter's day several years ago in northern British Columbia a RCMP constable on patrol came across a motorcyclist, who was swathed in protective clothing and helmet, stalled by the roadside. 'What's the matter?' asked the policeman. 'Carburettors frozen,' was the terse reply. 'Pee on it. That'll thaw it out.' 'Can't.' was the reply... 'OK, watch me and I will show you.' The constable lubricated the carburettor, as promised. The bike started and the rider drove off, waving. A few days later, the detachment office received a note of thanks from the father of the motorbike rider.

It began: 'On behalf of my daughter, who recently was stranded...'

Regards Andy

If a fellow winger hasn't got a smile then give them one of yours

[TomG]

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[dogbrain]

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[zootmoney]

Thought I might update all the kind souls who offered advice. So far I have used Silkolene FST additive in the bike and all is well. It is still sometimes hesitant to start so I still think something else is not quite right. But, much better running than before at zero degrees.
Thanks again for all the input.

Zoot

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[walter raleigh]

[zootmoney]

Yes it does which makes it a bit of a pain as you never know if its going to fire until you take your thumb off the button.

zoot
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[walter raleigh]

needs a new or more powerful battery then, lots of wings do this.
oddessey , agm type , lots of dosh
you take your finger off the button after about three to five seconds