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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 18:45 Post subject: Welcoming The Spirit of Tolerance and Friendliness |
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It is with great interest that I have found in recent months/weeks of reading on various sites, forums, blogs etc about the coming together of different clubs (GoldWing) emerging this biking season, in relation to either taking part, or helping out, on numerous events.
For instance, the Knutsford Chrome Crazy Weekend, Ride Safe Back Safe at Blackpool, Thundersprint, the H4H run that Barry organised in the lakes.
It is my understanding, because I wasn't at the H4H (granddaughters Christening) that there was a very genuine friendliness around all those wingers that were there regardless of which club, region etc they where from or members of. This can only be good for us all and I for one, hope it continues to go from strength to strength. _________________ Adrian
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Paul Barnes GWOCGB Member


Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 19:55 Post subject: |
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| You obviously havn't been reading the forum lately then |
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walter raleigh GWOCGB Member

Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 2256
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 20:04 Post subject: |
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Adrian, thats the bonus i have for NOT belonging to any particular region.
I just take my bike as was and trike as is , anywhere i like and join in with whatever takes my fancy.
Its the same when i am abroad, i just throw the tent up anywhere and join in.
we were lucky at the german treffen as we were camped next to english, polish, german and welsh goldwing owners, lovely chats about other cultures and different foods.
German doughnuts are delicious. |
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Geordiemuppet GWOCGB Member

Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 387 Location: Boldon Colliery, Tyne & wear
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 07:30 Post subject: |
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Mr Barnes, you shouldn't bite.  _________________ GWOCGB National Charity is: -
The Royal British Legion.
Get involved - you know it makes sense.
www.britishlegion.org.uk
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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 07:54 Post subject: |
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| Paul Barnes wrote: | | You obviously havn't been reading the forum lately then |
Which one would that be Paul? _________________ Adrian
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Paul Barnes GWOCGB Member


Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 15:22 Post subject: |
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| Crezz wrote: | | Paul Barnes wrote: | | You obviously havn't been reading the forum lately then |
Which one would that be Paul? |
its in the members section Adrian so unfortuatley or fortunatley you cant see it |
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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 15:38 Post subject: |
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Thanks Paul, no I can't.
I was of course, only commenting on ones that I am privy too. _________________ Adrian
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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 09:32 Post subject: |
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Could I mention about the Blackpool Light Parade on the 4th Sep this year.
It would be nice to see more Wings there showing off there wares to the public You know you all love doing it, I know I do
Maybe, more friendships will be forged across the Goldwing communities, so that we can support more events, both Wing and non Wing, in the interests of what we all love doing and that is riding our bikes and raising a few bob for worthy causes. _________________ Adrian
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Geordiemuppet GWOCGB Member

Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 387 Location: Boldon Colliery, Tyne & wear
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 09:34 Post subject: |
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Memories are not that short.
Some broken bridges are beyond repair. _________________ GWOCGB National Charity is: -
The Royal British Legion.
Get involved - you know it makes sense.
www.britishlegion.org.uk
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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:14 Post subject: |
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Well that's a shame Paul.
It's a pity really, well never mind, just thought I would mention it.  _________________ Adrian
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Geordiemuppet GWOCGB Member

Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 387 Location: Boldon Colliery, Tyne & wear
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 19:50 Post subject: |
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Crezz,
It is a shame, but as long as a certain blog keeps issuing articles that take a pop at this club by name, it is likely that said bridges will remain broken. _________________ GWOCGB National Charity is: -
The Royal British Legion.
Get involved - you know it makes sense.
www.britishlegion.org.uk
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keithcross GWOCGB Member

Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 5980 Location: Basingstoke
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 21:01 Post subject: |
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Got to agree with the above post. its time to put the past behind us all on this one.
I wish those who dont find this club for them all the best, but the contiual sniping on the blog you refer to do nothing but harm to the other organisations trying to form.
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salesman GWOCGB Member

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Location: KEIGHLEY
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 08:15 Post subject: reply |
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hi crezz
i too am of the belief that we all should move on.
it was heart warming to see so many wingers from different regions and groups, all working together for a good cause at the H4H cumbria run.
differences of the past put aside.
maybe its time, friends of the blog owner, should encourge him to cease his postings regarding GWOCGB,
to allow the dust to settle, and peaceful enjoyment of all our activites be allowed to grow and clubs to flourish..
he himself qouted, how pleased he was with the show of friendlyness he received at the H4H ride,
maybe its time to show, the past is the past and should be left there.
bridges may not always be rebuilt by some,
but,
new bridges can be built in there place with different tolerances.
maybe thats the way forward.
i for one this year, will be riding over to blackpool to enjoy saturdays parade with fellow like minded wingers, out to enjoy a well organised event.
I personally feel, the time as come to end the pasts problems with the blogger, once and for all providing he does the same.
and lets hope, friends of the blogger who read these postings , can encourage him to end his postings re- GWOCGB once and for all,
to allow friendship to grow.
lets enjoy our lives, and ride our bikes. that is why we brought them.
barry
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walter raleigh GWOCGB Member

Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 2256
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 09:31 Post subject: |
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anyone got the link to the blog so i can have a chuckle  |
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Helen Appleby GWOCGB Member

Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:58 Post subject: |
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What I wonder is how this blogger gained access to the members section of our Forum to be able to discuss our topics so fully in first place. To Much Politics was in the private section not the General section.
Helen |
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Goldwingdaz GWOCGB Member


Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 895 Location: Stoke on Trent
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 13:03 Post subject: |
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| Helen Appleby wrote: | What I wonder is how this blogger gained access to the members section of our Forum to be able to discuss our topics so fully in first place. To Much Politics was in the private section not the General section.
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friends in the right places methinks  _________________ True happiness is not to get what you want, but to want what you already have....
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Neil Crofts GWOCGB Member

Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 83 Location: SOUTH YORKSHIRE
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 16:06 Post subject: |
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More like a spy in the camp.
The man obviously has a fixation with GWOCGB.
He ought to see a doctor - oh, I forgot, he is a doctor! |
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littlejohn GWOCGB Member

Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Limavady Northern Ireland
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walter raleigh GWOCGB Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 18:37 Post subject: |
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thanks all , read the blog, interesting reading.  |
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kevin GWOCGB Member

Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 379
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 19:32 Post subject: |
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Suppose we should be flattered by his continuing interest in our club. _________________ Get orf moi trakter
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stephencd1 GWOCGB Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 114 Location: It's Grim Up North
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 05:51 Post subject: |
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| He seems to make a good point. It will be interesting to see if anyone can give a constructive argument against his article. |
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RUSAL

Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 07:17 Post subject: |
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i am not a member but thought it seemed a well ballanced view to me. lots of national based clubs are in decline and i thought he was having a good go at trying to understand why. as stephen says, where is the flip side of what he is saying. not even sure there is one.
so why is everyone leaving and why are people not joining _________________ 24 cans of beer in a case, 24 hours in a day.
Coincidence ? I think not. |
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Crezz

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 334 Location: Tyldesley, Wigan.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 09:40 Post subject: |
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I am sorry for causing some ill feelings on here, I had no intention of doing such a thing. I had just commented on some of my own observations of recent months, seems I may have got that wrong or not as the case maybe.
I only mentioned the BLP because, I know lots of Wingers enjoy the event and like to take part, I thought it was a good time to remind everyone, again maybe I got that wrong as well
Please do not fall out and lets keep it civilised  _________________ Adrian
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Goldwingdaz GWOCGB Member


Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 895 Location: Stoke on Trent
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:26 Post subject: |
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| RUSAL wrote: | i am not a member but thought it seemed a well ballanced view to me. lots of national based clubs are in decline and i thought he was having a good go at trying to understand why. as stephen says, where is the flip side of what he is saying. not even sure there is one.
so why is everyone leaving and why are people not joining |
The decline of national clubs is due mainly to rising costs, disinterest in club politics, differences of opinion, and the constant opposing observations that are forever being posted in blogs on the ever more popular internet.
Whilst many bloggers have very poignant items of information and personal feelings to convey, they fail to follow the simple rule that, if you dont like it, you can always ignore it.
Lack of growing membership can easily be placed within the categories listed above, lets face it, who wants to join a club if that club appears to be dropping its aims, or seems to be full of political arguments, or is constantly undermined by its own members?
Most motorcycle clubs now tend toward organised rideouts etc, be it in one form or another, however, these occasions are often either inconvenient to some members, or are not what they want to do at that time, after all, you can't please everyone all of the time.
We as a club have treffens and wingdings, for many years other clubs have had their Bulldog Bashes and Bikers weekends, they dont have to join a club to take part but can enjoy most of the benefits, this being the case, why would they want to spend money that could be used in the home or otherwise to buy a membership costing maybe £40 - £50 or in some cases more?
The only way forward for clubs today is to find ways to cut costs, encourage membership renewal and new memberships by promoting the comradship that a club should give, remove the backbiting that happens so often, remove the inner politics and replace them with simple ways of communicating views i.e. letters or emails, meetings that are held the old way, such as in a backroom at the pub, or as part of a weekend meet, bringing a more comfortable and easy atmosphere where members would want to attend and take interest. If a club is an elitist club for a particular make or model, keep it that way, a chap doesnt want to join the rolls royce club if he will be doing events next to an old mk2 escort or a rolls royce grill fastened to the front of a volvo.
Waffle mode off.
ooh that feels much better  _________________ True happiness is not to get what you want, but to want what you already have....
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RUSAL

Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 18:06 Post subject: |
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interesting. the use of the word politics again. i am not sure what you get for your £50 ? membership with this club but that seems a lot to me if you get little out of it personally and of course that will differ from person to person but any club needs to cater either for the masses or for the esoteric. its very hard if not impossible to achieve both and keep all happy.
if the smaller break off clubs have a model they are working to so they keep their members happy then maybe GWOC need to take a close look at what their business model is and the type of people they want to attract and concentrate on those and give them what they want and stop listening to EVERYONE. listen to your core clients maybe.
encourage new membership perhaps. drop the membership cost to half what it is maybe but do something or it will just die. And maybe deserve to as it wasnt listening.
i have no axe to grind in this either way as i have just said, new kid on the block.
there is a more modern thought process to apply here in this day and age as to be honest i can get most of what i want from a club from this very site and then the only thing missing is "who is riding out where and when". what else do i want ? what else am i missing ? _________________ 24 cans of beer in a case, 24 hours in a day.
Coincidence ? I think not. |
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